Some Thoughts on Miscegenation
Via HalfSigma, here are some wedding photos [link removed] from a union between a black man and a white woman. They may very well both be very nice people and they’ve never done anything to me, but I don’t care. For the white gene pool to be created millions had to die. Race mixing is like destroying a unique species or piece of art. It’s shameful.
In linguistics departments across the country scholars work with native peoples to preserve their languages. I know one professor who was working with the Arapaho Indians to teach the language to the young who only spoke English. The idea is that diversity for it’s own sake is good. There are about 7,000 languages in the world. The majority aren’t written. About half will go extinct within the next century thanks to globalization. Many will do so without being documented. We recognize this as a great loss. Why no concern about the gene pool? Even if race were only skin deep, shouldn’t we seek to preserve the unique looks of the various races?
As much as I intuitively don’t like race mixing, it’s best not to overstate the threat it poses. Commentator Maciano wrote the following on the homosexuality thread.
As I wrote in an earlier thread, first and foremost, I’m a pragmatist. HBD’ers first (and only true) priority should be: ending third world mass immigration.
Whatever rightwingers might think of homosexuality and feminism and healthcare and so and so is useless compared to all that. If a gay man supports an immigration moratorium, openly and unfrightenly, he’s on the right team, no? Who cares what he/she does in their bedroom? Why alienate allies?
If we’re worried about the white race surviving, feminism and secularism are still the biggest threats. It’s better to have a white population with a TFR of 2.8 with 30% marrying outside of their race than a TFR of 1.25 with no immigration/race mixing. The white population of America will remain stable in the next 50 years as whites become a minority. That’s not good, but would you rather be Italy and accept no immigration and see the number of natives cut in half?
That’s not to say that interracial unions should be encouraged. White women who mate outside their race may face unforeseen difficulties. Here’s the story of one from England that can’t relate to her half-Indian child.
Don’t get me wrong, I love her. She is the child I didn’t think I’d have after my first marriage broke up. She is the only granddaughter in our family and we all dote on her.
But when I turn to the mirror in my bedroom to admire us together, I am shocked. She seems so alien. With her long, dark eyelashes and shiny, dark brown hair, she doesn’t look anything like me.
I know that concentrating on how my daughter looks is shallow. She is a person in her own right, not an accessory to me. But still, I can’t shake off the feeling of unease.
I didn’t realise how much her looking different would matter and, on a rational level, I know it shouldn’t. But it does.
The lady seems to realize the sociobiological reason behind her unease.
Evolution demands that we have children to pass on our genes, hence the sense of pride and validation we get when we see our features reappearing in the next generation.
With my daughter, I don’t have that.
I wonder, at a black-white wedding, do you talk about politics? What if someone gets drunk and gives the white man on the street view of Professor Gates?
If you get people together long enough they tend to mix. The one drop rule has made America unique. In Saudi Arabia, the hybrid children of the slave owners were accepted into the family. Race Traitor magazine believes that the existence of American whites proves their racism because if they weren’t racist they would’ve all mixed with blacks and Indians by now. What’s especially depressing is that this is the utopian vision of some “conservatives” too.
The one drop rule has been one of the secrets to America’s success. With its decline, we need to think of other ways to put barriers between people. Race realists tend to support English only legislation, but I think that we should oppose it. If Mexicans or Chinese don’t speak English, they can’t hit on white women. Multiculturalism is preferable to assimilation. Finally, Muslim immigrants are preferable to any other kind. They take their religion seriously and won’t marry infidels. They’re also most likely to cause a backlash.
Steve Sailer is right on HBD, education, foreign policy and almost everything else. But his “citizenism“, even if it would cut the crime rate and lead to a more harmonious nation, is more dangerous to white survival than the program of any liberal.
Update:
Two more things I thought of. I remember reading from Jared Taylor that around 1990 81% of white Americans said they would be bothered if a relative married a black. Does anybody have anything more recent?
Also, Sigma has posted wedding photos for a black/white and white/Asian couple. I’ve been asking if anybody can find a black/Asian couple. If you come across one, please post it.
19 Comments
Aug 24, 2009 7:11 pm |
Please remove your link to my website
While you certainly have your right to write about your beliefs, my clients (the bride & groom) deserve to pursue their happiness free from opinions such as yours. I and my clients have no desire to be associated with your writings or opinions.
Aug 24, 2009 10:46 pm |
Brian should realize once you put something on the internet it is open for everyone to comment on in any way they please. Mr. Hoste, I would disagree with this statement … ” It’s better to have a white population with a TFR of 2.8 with 30% marrying outside of their race than a TFR of 1.25 with no immigration/race mixing. The white population of America will remain stable in the next 50 years as whites become a minority.” And the reason I disagree is I think miscegenation is a moral problem. It isn’t just an issue about survival of a subspecies that can produce more than other subspecies. It isn’t just the aesthetics. It is the severe risk of psychological and physical problems that come with miscegenation. Also, given that risk it is obvious when that risk is taken every time a couple is out in public. Hence, it constantly sets a bad example for others to replicate as humans are social creatures. I do not think Whites will remain stable because I think the rate of Whites that are likely to breed with other races is going to increase and the fertility rate will probably decrease given the horrible future that Whites have across the world.
Aug 24, 2009 11:26 pm |
Brian, thanks for the laugh.
Anyway, imagine the anguish that could have been prevented if this woman had some sane counseling that would have warned her about the perils of miscegenation. Perhaps this could serve as a warning for the featured couple. However, I think that bearing black children is the American white woman’s equivalent of wiggerdom. It’s the “promised land” of anti-white racism and negrophilia, from which there is no coming back.
Aug 24, 2009 11:46 pm |
Brian, if your “clients” wanted privacy, you (or whoever authorized their pictures to be put on a public Internet server) should have not put them there in the first place. Why don’t you just pull the pictures off your site, or restrict access to authorized users only?
Aug 25, 2009 12:23 am |
Or, I can put up something fit for this discussion… your call, I asked nicely.
Aug 25, 2009 12:29 am |
Go wild, Brian.
Aug 25, 2009 12:36 am |
Brian,
Linking to a site that is publicly viewable anyway is in no way a violation of anyone’s privacy nor does it imply that you or the couple endorse my opinions. I also didn’t personally insult these people in any way.
That being said, I’m feeling congenial and the photos don’t really contribute to the discussion. So I removed the link.
Aug 25, 2009 12:40 am |
Looks like Brian took it down himself. I also censored his link in the post so nobody clicks on it in case he puts something gross up.
Aug 25, 2009 12:41 am |
Thank you Richard.
Aug 25, 2009 7:49 am |
An audio recording(probably the only one in existence) of a speech by “Race and Reason” author Carleton Putnam:
http://www.archive.org/details/CarletonPutnamRaceAndReasonDaySpeech102661
Aug 25, 2009 3:30 pm |
“If we’re worried about the white race surviving, feminism and secularism are still the biggest threats. It’s better to have a white population with a TFR of 2.8 with 30% marrying outside of their race than a TFR of 1.25 with no immigration/race mixing.”
I completely disagree. You’re only looking at the raw numbers.
That much miscegenation would have social and political consequences, as well as changes to the white gene pool as a whole as more non-white ancestry would be absorbed.
In addition, if the lack of fertility is among liberal whites, for example the 40+% of whites who voted for Obama, it could have a eugenic effect.
Aug 25, 2009 4:25 pm |
That’s an interesting point about language. You know, the ultra-orthodox Jews in America generally speak English pretty poorly, even the ones who have been here for generations. Probably the same is true of the Amish.
Maybe the trick to preserving the white race is to speak your own esoteric language and to dress funny.
“Race mixing is like destroying a unique species or piece of art. It’s shameful.”
I agree. I wish people cared a tenth as much about preserving the white race as they care about preserving polar bears. Liberals love to whine about how polar bears are interfertile with brown bears and therefore polar bears need to have their own unique habitat to survive.
Aug 25, 2009 5:42 pm |
Amish mean standardized test scores are very near the white mean.
http://congenialtimes.blogspot.com/2008/12/amish-intelligence.html
Aug 25, 2009 7:16 pm |
New article on where white skin comes from.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327222.500-where-does-white-skin-come-from.html
Aug 25, 2009 7:28 pm |
The Russian fox experiment showed that selection for a trait could lead to other changes. From the NY Times 30 March 1999:
“But a striking consequence of the Russian program was that breeding foxes to strengthen a single behavioral trait, ”tamability,” brought about a wide variety of seemingly unrelated physical changes….
The normal pattern of coat color that evolved in wild foxes as camouflage changed markedly in the genetically tamed fox population, with irregular piebald splotches of white fur appearing in some animals. The tame foxes sometimes developed floppy ears in place of the straight ones of wild foxes. The domesticated foxes generally had shorter legs and tails than ordinary foxes, and often had curly tails instead of straight, horizontal tails.
Moreover, the faces of adult tame foxes came to look more juvenile than the faces of wild adults, and many of the experimental animals developed dog-like features, Dr. Trut reported. Although no selective pressures relating to size or shape were used in breeding the animals, the skulls of tamable foxes tended to be narrower with shorter snouts than those of wild foxes.”
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/30/science/new-breed-of-fox-as-tame-as-a-pussycat.html
Aug 26, 2009 1:18 am |
The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of White women who date, screw, or marry Black men are what is commonly called ‘White trash.’
If you survey the White women who date/screw/marry Black men, you’ll find that they are nearly all of them are severely defective in many ways, i.e. ugly, fat, stupid/uneducated, poor, boring, drug addicts, mentally unstable, etc. There are very occasional exceptions to this (Heidi Klum is one), but those are of course very rare.
The loss of these non-ethnocentric Whites to the White race has a decidedly eugenic effect on the White gene pool which is actually enriched by their absence. The inferior genes of these inferior Whites won’t be missed by the White gene pool, which is being made stronger, better, and more ethnocentric by their leaving it.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Aug 26, 2009 11:58 pm |
It should be remembered that we are all human.
Having said that, the big problem with mixing the genes from different races is that the intelligence of the offspring will be distributed around the mean of the IQs of the parents. Moreover, given the higher levels of criminality amount some groups (compared with other groups), and the resistance that some groups have for the discipline applied by parents in some groups means that any mixture of, say black and east asian, is likely to lead to a nervous breakdown for the east-asian party.
However, I suspect that most here are concerned at the ability of mixed-race offspring to play the blame-whitey game more effectively.
That being the case your real issue is with the elites in the US, not the relatively few individuals who screw across the race lines.
Aug 27, 2009 2:15 am |
A Black pastor on Obama’s interracial background – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl9l2FAC_8w
Start at about 2:30 – calls White women who sleep with Black men “trashy”
Sep 1, 2009 9:17 am |
You can find references to black men having a sexual interest in white women going back hundreds of years.
It was noted that in Philadelphia (circa 1850) that there were many freed blacks with white wives and also many single young white women with black children. The white people of the time could see what that to their people, their race. As late as the 1960’s blacks were open about what it meant.
Some one, a black I am sure, said that “the black man’s penis is his best weapon against the white man.”
And so it is.
With Obama that there is any confusion about this matter is amazing. We are watching the greatest con-job in history. It’s as if the Nazi’s had been able to get the Jews to all kill themselves willingly.
Yet, I see no change from this course. In England it is said that over 40%+ of black men are married to white women and that does not include the white woman that are living with blacks or just having sex with them.
What will become of us?
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