The Oriental Diversicrat
According to blogger OneSTDV, Asians are the minority liberals don’t like. The thinking goes that the elites have a picture of America as a land where whites are advantaged and minorities are poor and crime prone because of it. A successful group of nonwhites is a living contradiction of their worldview. His evidence is a Princeton newspaper making fun of a Chinese girl that sued the school over their affirmative action policy.
I’ve seen this kind of talk amongst race realists before. Asians suffer from affirmative action and NAM crime, do well in school and as an economically successful group are losers under any economic redistributionist regime. Unfortunately, besides the mentioned article there’s no indication that liberals dislike Asians or vice versa. The clearest way to see this is by looking at voting patterns. In both 2004 and 2008 the Democratic presidential candidate won the Asian vote by about two to one. In 1996 61% of California Asians voted against ending affirmative action.
How to explain this supposed paradox? Interestingly, Asians as a group supported George H.W. Bush and Bob Dole during their losing campaigns of 1992 and 1996 respectively. When you realize that voting is at least as much about making a statement as it is rational self interest these patterns make a lot more sense.
Before we can understand Asians, we have to take a look at American political culture in general and how it’s changed in just the last two decades. For a few generations now, the elites have had certain ideas about the direction they wanted the country to go. The only problem was that the voters wouldn’t cooperate. They came to hate the masses more and more. But immigration continued, and without ever consciously planning it in recent years the liberals have found themselves as a group in permanent control no longer needing the consent of the majority they detest. This disgust that they’ve built up has been given free reign. We now have New York Times articles explicitly celebrating the death of White America. This would’ve been unthinkable in 1990.
I’ve seen the anti-white cultural trends in shows and comedians I grew up with. In the late 90s I enjoyed watching comedian Bill Maher on his TV show Politically Incorrect. He would describe himself as a libertarian and voted Dole in 1996. I don’t remember him talking much about race, but his views on sex were certainly un-PC. Today, he’s a standard liberal and foams at the mouth when talking about conservative whites. The Simpsons used to be a great show, with actual characters that you cared about. Today, Homer, Lisa, Mr. Burns and the rest have morphed into political representations of what the writers like or dislike.
To be a Republican in 2008 doesn’t mean the same thing that it did in 1992. Back then, voting with the conservative party said something about your economic views. Today, it’s taking a cultural stand. The most prestigious institutions in society have heaped so much mock and scorn on traditionalist whites that people of other races have gotten the hint. White America has fought for the freedom of Korea and Vietnam, to feed Somalians, bombed Serbia and Sudan, liberated Kuwait, helped bring down the Soviet Union and tried to build democracy in Haiti, Afghanistan and Iraq, but didn’t lift a finger to stop themselves from being on their way to becoming a hated minority in their own country. Who would want to be associated with these losers?
What’s true for the Asian masses holds especially true for the elites. Particularly disturbing is the invention of the term “People of Color” (we should know by now to be on the guard for any new terminology or victim groups liberals create. How long was it from the time “homophobia” came into the English language to when it became one of the ultimate sins?). It was bad enough when blacks organized as blacks, Hispanic as Hispanics, etc. without whites being allowed to do the same. Now, nonwhites aren’t just organizing based on what they are, but what they’re not (white). Pat Buchanan wrote about one such group before the 2008 election:
On Sunday, 6,800 folks showed in Chicago for the 2008 quadrennial convention of UNITY: Journalists of Color. McCain declined an invitation. Bush had been booed at UNITY 2004, while John Kerry got a standing ovation. Featured speaker: Barack. Major concern of the journalists running the show: that their colleagues would lift the roof off the McCormick Place convention center when Barack arrived.
Said Luis Villareal, a producer of NBC’s “Dateline,” “I don’t think it’s such a bad thing if for 15 minutes you take off your reporter hat and respond to (Obama) as a human being at an event where you’re surrounded by people of color and you’re here for a united cause.”
And exactly what “cause” might the 10,000 members of UNITY be united behind? The hiring and advancement of journalists of color in all major news organizations in America.
For, as its emblem depicts, UNITY comprises four alliances: the Asian American Journalists Association, the National Association of Hispanic Journalists, the Native American Journalists Association and the National Association of Black Journalists.
“A New Journalism for a Changing World” is UNITY’s motto.
And the title of its July 22 press release reveals what the “new journalism” is all about. “Aim of New UNITY Initiative Is More Diversity in Top Media Management.”
“With more than 50 percent of the population projected to be people of color in less than a generation,” says UNITY President Karen Lincoln Michel, “the nation’s news organizations continue to generate dismal diversity numbers year after year. … ‘Ten by 2010′ is a significant step in the right direction.”
What is Ten by 2010?
UNITY is demanding that 10 major U.S. news organizations, by mid-2010, elevate to a senior management position in the newsroom at least one journalist of color and provide “customized training to help prepare them.”
Notice how by 2004 being an educated PoC meant booing the Republican and cheering the Democrat. And if businesses are forced to hire more nonwhites, and any nonwhites will do, what group can expect to benefit the most if not the one with the highest IQ? Jared Taylor has written on Asians getting into the racial spoils system and calling for quotas in areas where they’re underrepresented. If they’re allowed to partake in identity politics, we can’t expect them to resist.
Having been to college, educated Asians don’t only vote for liberal ideas but believe in them. I used to be less afraid of bringing up HBD in front of Orientals than other minorities because the data flatters them. Most, however, have been more shocked than the typical white college graduate. (interestingly Arabs have been the most accepting. I’ve never talked to an East Indian about these issues, but there seem to be a lot of them in the HBD blogosphere) This itself if evidence of HBD. Asians are natural conformists. They internalize PC dogma better than anyone else. In their anti-whiteness they are more white than whites.
Asian American studies programs now exist at a handful of major universities and seek to institutionalize the cult of victimhood. The following is from the Wikipedia article on “Model Minority.”
While some Asian Americans hold pride in the model minority image, the consensus in academia and the field of Asian American studies is that the Model Minority Myth is detrimental to the Asian Pacific American (APA) community, used to justify the exclusion of needy APA communities in the distribution of assistance programs, public and private, and understate or slight the achievements of APA individuals. Communities that are especially affected are South East Asian communities, e.g. Cambodian-American, and the Pacific Islander community, e.g. persons with origins in Guam and Micronesia; these communities have much lower education rates and higher poverty rates. Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Filipino and Indian Americans are over twice as likely to graduate with a bachelor’s degree than most members of other Asian-American groups. The Model Minority myth relies on the aggregation of success indicators, hiding the plight of recent first-generation immigrants under the high success rate of more established Asian communities.
Big surprise there. An academic field of study that grew out of identity politics reaches politically correct consensuses. Wikipedia will also teach you that all those who have studied “white privilege” agree that it exists.
If Asians have been too successful to be victims, they’ll associate themselves with less intelligent races in order to play the game. In the backwards world of academia, failure brings prestige. I thought the concept of Asian/Pacific Islander only existed as a census option but apparently it’s now a “community.” Isn’t it strange how people who share nothing in common (genes, language, history, SES) are seeing themselves as a bloc (at least in academia) based on how some white government bureaucrats decided to divide up the races decades ago? The Carter administration (or whoever) probably just thought that API sounded better than “miscellaneous.” (the Census Bureau in recent years has split Asians and PIs up. The term still exists though, and there’s even a Pacific Asian Heritage Month.)
If the People of Color needs leadership, Asians are naturals to fill the role. Take a look at the blog Racialicious, a meeting ground for spouters of every PC cliché there is. The founder is half-white and half-Asian. She saw that there was a market for anti-white propaganda, the competition for the top slots wasn’t all that impressive and was intelligent enough to take advantage. In the future, we can expect to see more members of the “model minority” doing the same.
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Aug 7, 2009 5:42 pm |
People of Color is hands down one of the frutiest terms coined by modern liberalism, perhaps THE frutiest one. I don’t see how hereditarianism is that particularly flattering when the idea of east asians being significantly less creative than whites frequently comes up.
Indians are a very diverse bunch, to say the least, but at home, Indians are some of the most profoundly racist people on the planet. It goes beyond the meritocracy and the like racialists/hereditarians often uphold as the paragon of moral considerations in this debate- it’s skin color. So many indians outright fetishize white skin, many of them seem to worship whites.
Aug 7, 2009 5:47 pm |
As more Asians immigrate and form their own endogamous communities, we can surely expect class differences between whites and Asians. Suspicion of backlash by the lower status whites would mold relations.
“The most prestigious institutions in society have heaped so much mock and scorn on traditionalist whites that people of other races have gotten the hint.”
Especially during the Prop. 8 controversy in California. Even though nams were more likely to vote against gay marriage all of the frustration was dumped on “those white hicks” and Mormons.
Aug 7, 2009 10:03 pm |
Hi, Mr. Hoste. I don’t know else how to contact you, so this will have to do.
In an Amazon review of Theodore Dalrymple’s book, Not With a Bang But a Whimper: The Politics and Culture of Decline, you said the following about Britain: “Not a week goes by without a news story on toddlers accused of racism, people locked up for thought crimes or another act of appeasement towards the Muslim minority.”
None of this is true. It’s deeply troubling when people say this kind of thing, apparently with the indignation and conviction of those who genuinely believe their own words.
Also, to Dan, above, at the time of said “Prop. 8 controversy”, all of the major news sources of which I was aware, and the majority of people to whom I spoke on the matter, were very clear about the fact that many of the votes in favour of the proposition came from the African-American and Latino communities. Oh, and the Mormons.
This whole blog is… well, it’s all rather worrying.
Aug 7, 2009 10:58 pm |
Anecdotal. The relationship between black dislike towards homosexuals is discussed less than the one between conservative white Christians.
Or when it is, as in this Slate article, the author will address black homophobia yet does not fully condemn, and ends with ambiguity or even praise.
“When these rappers say “no homo,” it can seem a bit like a gentleman’s agreement, nodding to the status quo while smuggling in a fuller, less hamstrung notion of masculinity. This is still a concession to homophobia, but one that enables a less rigid definition of the hip-hop self than we’ve seen before. It’s far from a coup, but, in a way, it’s progress.”
“No homo tweaks this dynamic because it allows, implicitly, that rap is a place where gayness can in fact be expressed by the guy on the mic, not just scorned in others. In the very act of trying to “purify” an utterance of any gayness, after all, the no homo tag must contaminate it first—it’s both a denial and a flashing neon arrow. This isn’t to suggest that saying no homo is a radical act, but there’s an appealing sense in which the phrase refuses to function as tidily as some of its boosters might like.”
http://www.slate.com/id/2224348/pagenum/all
Aug 7, 2009 11:02 pm |
“This whole blog is… well, it’s all rather worrying.”
Now that we have your attention, make sure you visit this entrance.
http://hbdbooks.com/2009/06/the-descent-of-man/
Aug 8, 2009 1:02 am |
“This whole blog is… well, it’s all rather worrying.”
I can just imagine this liberal pantywaist pseudo-man quivering at the sight of such unspeakable heresy. What I can’t figure out is why this crude facsimile of a human being would be reading a review of a Dalrymple book anyway. Isn’t there some Tim Wise propaganda you could be nodding along to, or a pro-immigration rally to attend?
Aug 8, 2009 3:21 am |
Richard, can’t really disagree with anything here. As a recent Ivy League grad, my college experience basically confirms what you’ve argued here.
As far as East Indians go, I imagine you’re thinking of the GNXP guys, but my experience has been that East Indians drink the same kool aid as East Asians, and often align themselves together with East Asians under the larger “Asian” grouping. A lot of Indians are academically and economically successful, and end up at the same elite universities and are subjected to the same Leftist ideology as Asians that they quickly assimilate and internalize.
I suspect that Indians will fulfill the leadership role even better and much more readily than East Asians, just based on natural leadership qualities and abilities like verbal skill, speaking ability, charisma, etc. Though I’m sure both will be well represented. A good example is the “Kumar” guy from the “Harold and Kumar.” His name is Kal Penn, and he recently got a job with the Obama administration. In early 2009 he became the “Associate Director of the White House Office of Public Liaison…and in his new role with the Obama administration, Penn serves as a liaison with the Asian-American and Pacific Islander communities.”
And prior to working in the White House, “in spring 2008, Penn served as a visiting lecturer in Asian American Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. He taught two courses, “Images of Asian Americans in the Media” and “Contemporary American Teen Films”"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kal_Penn
Leftist ideology, strong conformist tendencies, and ethnocentricism is a toxic combination.
Remember, Jews have been in this country for 100 years now, and despite all the academic, economic, and professional success they’ve achieved, the majority of them support the Left and supported Obama. So you can’t really expect much difference from Asians.
Aug 8, 2009 4:26 am |
“East Indians drink the same kool aid as East Asians”
I think that the caste system is what sets Indians apart. Indians with any awareness of their cultural background have incontrovertible, often personal, evidence of how populations can drift apart even without geographic isolation.
Of course I agree that they will still tend to fall for the siren’s song of leftism. Kal Penn’s advancement from ordinary-at-best actor to White House adviser is a perfect example of the inducements a free and fair society cannot offer them.
It’s also worth mentioning that Indians’ brownness will make them more desirable as public figures than, say, Penn’s Harold & Kumar co-star John Cho. One of the necessary illusions propping up the diversity cult is that all nonwhites are essentially “black”, and hence should inspire the same anxiety and guilt that modern-day whites feel about black slavery. Kal Penn, with skin as dark as the average African-American’s, does a much better job presenting this image than the pigmentless Cho ever could.
Aug 8, 2009 5:44 am |
Japanese, Koreans ans Chinese will never make a political front with Blacks against Whites. They cannot see themselves as Blacks and they dream of respect and acceptance for their intellectual qualities. The people of color coalition will not last, it is contra natura. Chinese have successfully accomodated Maysian, Indonesian aspirations, and will also do the same in America.
Aug 8, 2009 7:25 am |
Good post.
I don’t think the issue of how Asians vote is really indicative of how liberals view Asians. Jews voted for Obama even though he was the most obviously anti-Israel presidential candidate in recent memory.
Second point: You’re correct in noting that the identity politics movement recruits Asians and tells them they should oppose whites because they belong in the non-white category (despite having higher average income than whites). This could prove detrimental in trying to defeat racialism.
But much of resentment towards affirmative action is from Asians (like the guy I cited who sued Princeton). They know they don’t need, so they oppose it. Unforutnately, a lot of other racial issues (like immigration), Asians will be persuaded by the “beiging movement of America.” And while this woulnd’t be too much of a problem if it was only a limited number of Asian immigrants, unfettered immigration will bring in a huge excess of NAMs.
Aug 8, 2009 10:43 am |
Obama was not the most anti-Israel presidential candidate you’ve ever seen. He may have been the most major anti-Israel presidential candidate relatively.
“Indians are a very diverse bunch, to say the least, but at home, Indians are some of the most profoundly racist people on the planet. It goes beyond the meritocracy and the like racialists/hereditarians often uphold as the paragon of moral considerations in this debate- it’s skin color. So many indians outright fetishize white skin, many of them seem to worship whites.”
This might be taking things too far. I do understand what you mean. It is just obvious to us Whites are more attractive and healthy. We would rather be more like you. Isn’t this the same with all of the other races? Hereditarians and racialists go beyond the meritocracy they want to promote. There are other values such as being against miscegenation, etc. Don’t non-Whites take you down while intermarrying with Whites for the purpose of improving their own genes including their physical representation? Also, East Indians do swallow the liberalism of a lot of East Asians, but are more politically interesting as Steve Sailer points out. Remember East Indians are not settled like Jews in America. Many of Indian-Americans are not even second-generation Americans. They don’t feel like asserting themselves politically. Once another generation passes, then you might see themselves political assertion.
Aug 8, 2009 11:17 am |
In an Amazon review of Theodore Dalrymple’s book, Not With a Bang But a Whimper: The Politics and Culture of Decline, you said the following about Britain: “Not a week goes by without a news story on toddlers accused of racism, people locked up for thought crimes or another act of appeasement towards the Muslim minority.”
None of this is true. It’s deeply troubling when people say this kind of thing, apparently with the indignation and conviction of those who genuinely believe their own words.
On ferreting out “racism” in children:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2261307/Toddlers-who-dislike-spicy-food-racist-say-report.html
Toddlers who dislike spicy food ‘racist’
Toddlers who turn their noses up at spicy food from overseas could be branded racists by a Government-sponsored agency.
(…)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1032650/Children-young-reported-racism-Government-funded-group-claims.html
(…)
A boy of ten has already been taken to court for calling a mixed race 11-year-old ‘Paki’ and ‘Bin Laden’ in a school playground argument.
The pair subsequently made up and became friends again, yet the Crown Prosecution Service decided to go ahead because the victim’s mother made a complaint.
The ten- year- old eventually appeared at Salford Youth Court in 2006 where he denied a raciallymotivated offence under the Public Order Act of using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent to cause another person harm or distress.
(…)
British Dhimmitude and thought crime prosecutions are too well known(to anyone without his or her head up his a** ) to need further comment. Except to mention that the Devil himself(Nick Griffin) has been prosecuted twice for hate speech.
Aug 8, 2009 12:27 pm |
If were an asian guy I would definitely be pushing ethnocenterism since it would improve my chances of getting laid. North east asians are pragmatist though, at least when they are not gambling. I can’t see them leading the non-whites or the non-whites following.
Aug 8, 2009 10:01 pm |
“This might be taking things too far. I do understand what you mean. It is just obvious to us Whites are more attractive and healthy. We would rather be more like you.”
Many of you indians endlessly denigrate the looks of your own race, particularly with skin color. It goes beyond worshipping whites and even in the realms of extreme discrimination against people with darker skin color. There might be some innate attractive basis for skin color among humans when it comes to females, but I find it insane to think it would exclude about 90%+ of the skin color variation amongst humans. Many of you indians seem to revile skin that isn’t lily-white. Look how much you denigrate anybody with darker skin or the rampancy of those skin lightening products. Face it- many of you people have a deranged fetish for light skin.
“Hereditarians and racialists go beyond the meritocracy they want to promote. There are other values such as being against miscegenation, etc. Don’t non-Whites take you down while intermarrying with Whites for the purpose of improving their own genes including their physical representation?”
They’d only be “improving” their own genes if they went beyond the near-universal phenomenon of assortive mating by IQ, something nearly everyone overlooks when discussion about racial mixing with an ethnic group of lower IQ compared to one of higher IQ comes about. And improving physical appearance? In what sense? Do whites have a monopoloy on facial symmetry, facial femininity etc.? Please don’t tell me you’re one of those nordic fetishists. People like you act as if whites don’t have their own unattractive ethnic cranio-facial extremities. By the way, do you think white males are the most attractive on earth?
So many of you indians are some of the most self-abasing people on the planet, far moreso than many white liberals.
Aug 9, 2009 12:40 pm |
Here’s an oriental diversicrat for you: Sandra Soo-Jin Lee is carving out a niche for herself by explaining why genetic ancestry testing is dangerous and must be suppressed by the government.
“According to blogger OneSTDV, Asians are the minority liberals don’t like. [. . .] His evidence is a Princeton newspaper making fun of a Chinese girl that sued the school over their affirmative action policy.”
The “evidence” cited by OneSTDV doesn’t begin to support his premise. Of the eight editors responsible for said sad attempt at humor, four are East Asian, one is South Asian, one is a Jew, one is Spanish-surnamed, and one is Italian-surnamed. The editors defend the article as follows:
Since publishing Wednesday’s joke issue, we have learned that some of our readers were offended by a column satirizing Asian stereotypes. The response surprised us: We did not seek to offend, and we sincerely regret having upset some of our readers.
Many criticisms of the column, however, do not recognize its purpose. Using hyperbole and an unbelievable string of stereotypes, we hoped to lampoon racism by showing it at its most outrageous. We embraced racist language in order to strangle it. At its worst, the column was a bad joke; at its best, it provoked serious thought about issues of race, fairness and diversity.
The column in question was penned by a diverse group of students — including several Asians on our senior editorial staff — who had no malicious intent. Given our purpose, we are deeply troubled by and reject the allegation of racism.
There are honest differences in opinion on what is humorous and what is not, and it was a regrettable mistake on our part to think that everyone would see the column the way we do. We welcome debate about the piece, especially in the pages of this newspaper. We hope the opportunity presented now for a constructive debate on race and race-related issues will not be lost.
Chanakya Sethi ‘07, editor-in-chief
Christian Burset ‘07, Neir Eshel ‘07, Anna Huang ‘07, Nancy Khov ‘07, Alex Maugeri ‘07, Tom Senn ‘07 and Ellen Young ‘07, Editors, 130th Managing Board
See also “the joint statement (Jan. 22) issued by the Asian-American Students Association and The Daily Princetonian“.
Aug 14, 2009 3:49 am |
“—Don’t non-Whites take you down while intermarrying with Whites for the purpose of improving their own genes including their physical representation?—”
Yet, paradoxically enough, half-breeds, ESPECIALLY in Asia, are treated rather poorly and contemptuously:
[...]
“It wasn’t her body that was exposed, but her race, or, shall we say, her ‘real’ race. Korean actress and producer Lee Yu Jin is down and out in South Korea. Why? The word is out: she’s half American. She’s a mixed race. Her white father was an American GI. She’s 5’9”, and was always suspect because of her height.
“People ask why didn’t I come out earlier and why this is such a big deal, “ the 27-year-old said. “It wouldn’t be anywhere else, but Korea is still a closed society where people like to talk about the purity of the race.”
Lee Yu Jin isn’t alone in her plight, either. There’s the popular singer “Sonya,” television host Jennifer Yung Wisner, and basketball coach Kim Dong Dwang. Bi-racial persons are considered a downer, in a place like South Korea (to say nothing of Nort Korea). [...]
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/04/korean_actress.php
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